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kpl > 05.11.2013, 09:05:45
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(05.11.2013, 09:32:51)kpl schrieb: ... das hab ich mich nicht so einfach getraut... Danke!Gute Frage, manchmal hört sich's schief an oder das Resultat ist semantisch anderweitig belegt.
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(05.11.2013, 09:32:51)kpl schrieb: Wann nehme ich "ic" und wann "ous" - gibt's da ne feste Regel dazu?Wenn ja, kenn ich sie nicht. ich mach das nach Intuition. Hallo @suz weißt DU da weiter?
lingucat > 06.11.2013, 11:13:48
(05.11.2013, 09:32:51)kpl schrieb: Wann nehme ich "ic" und wann "ous" - gibt's da ne feste Regel dazu?
kpl > 06.11.2013, 11:35:42
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Zitat:-IC (Seite 144)
In its foremost semantic range, the suffic –ic describes relation. It has five senses
a) 'Pertaining to the thing named by the root'. This sense happens when the nominal roots are common nouns. For example, a telegraphic apparatus is an apparatus that pertains to telegraph. Similar adjectives are allergic, atomic, cubic, mythic, photographic and so on. Such adjectives to not have a counterpart ending in –ical.
b) 'Pertaining to the typical feature of the thing named by the root'. This sense occurs when the nominal roots are abstract. In this nuance, both –ic and –ical are in the competition. For example, a philosophic stance is a stance that is calm and rational in difficult situations.
c) 'Pertaining to the place or the language named by the root'. This sense occurs when the nominal roots are proper nouns. For example, an Icelandic saga is a saga that pertains to Iceland. Similar adjectives are Arabic, Celtic, Teutonic, and so on.
d) 'Pertaining to the person named by the root'. This sense occurs when the nominal roots are proper. For example, Byronic style is style that pertains to the English poet Byron. Similar adjectives are Miltonic, Socratic, and so on.
e) 'Applying the typical feature of the thing named by the root'. Sometimes, the roots end in –ist. This sense occurs when the nominal roots are abstract. For example, an optimistic person who expects the best to happen. Similar adjectives are artistic, heroic, idealistic, nationalistic, pedantic, and so on.
In its peripheral semantic range, the suffic – ic describes possession with the sense ‘having the element named by the root to a high degree’. This sense occurs when the nominal roots are abstract. For example, in chloric/chlorous acid the adjective ending in –ic contains a higher proportion of acid than the adjective ending in –ous.
-OUS (Seite 147)
In its basic use, the suffix –ous expresses possession. It has four senses.
a) 'Abounding in the thing denoted by the root'. This sense appears when the nominal roots are abstract, and the derived ajectives apply to non-humans. For example, a dangerous mission is a mission that abounds in potential harm or loss. Additional adjectives include capacious, cavernous, perilous, riotous, voluminous, and so on.
b) 'Filled with the thing denoted by the root'. This sense appears when the nominal roots are abstract, and the derived adjectives apply to humans. For example, an ambitious person is a person who shows a strong desire for success or achievement. Additional adjectives include contemptuous, desirous, piteous, sensuous, and so on.
c) 'Characterized by the thing denoted by the root'. This sense appears when the nominal roots are abstract, and the derived adjectives apply to human actions. For example, a courteous man is a man who is marked by good manners. Additional adjectives include barbarous, courageous, malicious, traitorous, virtuous, and so on.
d) 'Causing or inspiring the thing denoted by the root'. This sense appears when the nominal roots are abstract, and the derived adjectives apply to non-humans. For example, a hazardous journey is a journey that involves risk or danger. Additional adjectives include arduous, disastrous, grievous, ruinous, slumberous, and so on.
In its peripheral use, the suffix –ous evokes the sense having the element denoted by the root to a low degree.